Friday, October 12, 2012

China Nobel winner Mo Yan hopes for jailed laureate's freedom - Reuters [fornadablog.blogspot.com]

China Nobel winner Mo Yan hopes for jailed laureate's freedom - Reuters [fornadablog.blogspot.com]

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[fornadablog.blogspot.com], China Nobel winner Mo Yan hopes for jailed laureate's freedom - Reuters

GAOMI, China | Fri Oct 12, 2012 3:58am EDT

GAOMI, China (Reuters) - Chinese Nobel Literature Prize winner Mo Yan said on Friday he hoped jailed compatriot Liu Xiaobo, who won the Nobel Peace Prize two years ago, would be freed soon.

"I hope he can achieve his freedom as soon as possible," Mo told reporters in his hometown of Gaomi in the northern province of Shandong.

Mo, 57, said he had read some of Liu's literary criticisms in the 1980s, but that he had no understanding of Liu's work once it had turned towards politics.

Mo Yan is a pen name which means "don't speak". He had come under fire from dissidents for shying away from commenting on Liu's plight.

Liu, jailed in 2009, is serving an 11-year sentence for inciting subversion of state power.

A number of rights activists and other writers have said Mo was unworthy of the prize and denounced him for commemorating a speech by former paramount Chinese leader Mao Zedong.

(Reporting by Michael Martina; Writing by Sui-Lee Wee and Ben Blanchard; Editing by Robert Birsel)

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Question by Dreamstuff Entity: When did the bible "bitter water" method for detecting adultery stop working - or does it still work? Numbers 5:11-31 describes a method to test for adultery. Basically, a priest makes a woman drink bitter water. If she's guilty, her belly shall swell and her thigh shall rot. Does it still work? Or did it stop working the moment Jesus was born / died / returned to life? Why would it stop working? Oh, and do you think it ever worked when the woman committed adultery with a priest? So... Jesus came to spread truth, and he made a way to figure out if something is true or not stop working. Huh. Best answer for When did the bible "bitter water" method for detecting adultery stop working - or does it still work?:

Answer by St Paul of Thebes
No, that worked in the tabernacle where the people wandered in the desert for 40 years, where God allowed this to happen. It was one of those harsh punishments back then because they had hearts of stone. It wouldn't work today, because after Jesus, He gave us the Holy Spirit, who works inside of people to lead them back to the path to God. There is no need for this test anymore.

Answer by Lightandtruth
You have to have righteous Priesthood to do it, where is that?

Answer by The Tao of Atheism.
God sure works in some mysterious ways.

Answer by t3hplatyz0rz
I believe one of the reasons Jesus came was to spread truth. Thus, there must have been some changes in the original Bible, the Old Testament, that required some new updates. These things go against the basic statements of what God is all about, i.e. when He destroyed Sodom for doing nothing but having but sex every once in a while. Whether this is one of those, I am not to say, but also, what qualifies as "bitter water?" How bitter does it have to be? There's just no logical way anyone could s tandardize this test, so it probably doesn't work

Answer by mzJakes
There were many requirements necessary to be in place for this method to work. Among them was that the Temple must be extant and functioning. Without the Temple, there is no way to 'test' an alleged adulterer using this method.

Answer by Randall
It always works. God is no respecter of persons. In Him is no variableness.

Answer by babygirlree
Thats a good question, i wonder myself..it is true. why would it not work today? I guess they had a certain mixture that maybe only the priest knew and could do, so who knows..we may never know cause who is a priest i mean a real israelite priest that still serves Yahweh god of israel these days? if we knew one it may still work..Shalom

Answer by welltraveledprog
Yeah, and how come we don't determine witches anymore by throwing them into a pond with a weight tied around them, and see if they sink or float (with sinking meaning they're not a witch, by the way)? Gee, could it be that we got educated, and figured out that superstitious rituals mean nothing? Could it? Peace.

Answer by façade
Back then they did not have a camera crew available to stalk the adulterous couples and put them on television. Er, ... mysterious ways ... uh ... miracles to perform ... and etc. Good question. @welltravelled: These days, we merely ask the question on Yahoo!: "Who is a witch?" And we get plenty of respondents. It is a drier method.

Answer by BibleChooser
1) When did the bible "bitter water" method for detecting adultery stop working - or does it still work? Still works. 2) Or did it stop working the moment Jesus was born / died / returned to life? Nope. 3) Why would it stop working? Well, like *all* miracles, it takes faith - so that is the primary ingredient. The secondary ingredient that is lacking in modern times is dust from the floor of the tabernacle. No tabernacle, no dust. Probably it frequently worked purely by the power of superstition. Any woman who *had* been secretly unfaithful, presented with the consequences of that ritual, might very well have broken down and confessed and begged for forgiveness *before* going through with the ritual and suffering the dire consequences. 4) Oh, and do you think it ever worked when the woman committed adultery with a priest? As long as it was not with the priest performing the ritual. Jim, http://www.bible-reviews.com

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